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Just a place to post some stuff. It's mostly OUAT and SwanFire related with the occational off-topic rant. (Don't give me shit about the anon ask. I know there are plenty of nice anons out there, but there are also many who are just haters. If you don't want to be traced back to your blog, why should I listen to you?)

 

This is terrible! When do they get to killing the children?

Homer Simpson, while watching a love triangle scene in The Survival Games (a Hunger Games parody)

All he wants to see is children fighting to the death. That was my feeling about OUAT 3A: Less Emma love triangle crap, more murderous Lost Boys.

(This quote is really bad out of context!)

No shit they changed radically. The only thing that’s stayed the same is the bad CGI!

No shit they changed radically. The only thing that’s stayed the same is the bad CGI!

ABC Boss Talks About S.H.I.E.L.D.'s Slow Start, Once's Take on Frozen, Jilted Trophy Wife and More

cautionaryredhead:

meresger:

OUAT “a greatly underrated show,” due to its reputation as “a big family show.”? Try because the writing is crap. There’s nothing family at all about it! One character’s grandfather married the daughter of the woman he was engaged to and then ruined her life so she had to leave her quasi-rape baby in the woods who came back years later to murder her half-sister’s adoptive son’s father whose own step father is trying to bed the kid’s birth mom after spending centuries murdering and whoring around following the murder of the woman he cuckolded by her jilted husband who was abandoned by his psycho dad which traumatized him into abandoning his own kid who then abandoned his own kid. And the kid’s other grandmother had a one-night-stand with the guy her husband was totally okay with delivering their baby, the baby that his wife openly declared in front of her first born and abandoned daughter that she wanted to have as a replacement — her daughter who grew up alone after her parents trusted a man with a puppet fetish who was raised by the guy who accidentally murdered his parents by turning the into puppets while trying to kill his own — but they forgave him and her step-mother who murdered hundreds of people including a man whose kid she was staking after trying to kill her step-daughter and step granddaughter like she did her husband and her own father whom she named her adoptive son after, the son she got by ruining hundreds of lives including the kid’s birth mother, but she doesn’t regret that, yet she’s reformed enough to do the walk of shame with a single dad and babysit his kid whose mom she had executed. And Peter Pan is a deadbeat, child-abducting and torturing dad. This is family viewing? Then so is Game of Thrones!

If their intent was to showcase how dark and twisted fairytales are traditionally around the world… but they seem to think they’re telling masterful love stories about family, hope, and magic. Fucking Disney, as well! And I love Disney! God, I feel like I needed them to pick an avenue and stick with it. Own-up if they wanted something darker or do the light and frothy! You can’t have it all! You can’t successfully work all sides of the coin and appeal to everyone! There’s no way, if I have children some day, I’d sit them down and watch this show. Disturbing and dangerous behaviors are too quickly forgotten on this show!

Maybe, if we’re lucky, HBO will have a show about fairytale adaptations in a couple years. It would be highly sexualized, dark, twisted: and it would openly love every minute of this instead of doing something controversial, never discussing it again, hope the audience forgets, gets frustrated the audience doesn’t forget, take to twitter to tell the audience to forget, get frustrated the the audience calls you out on this BS.

I might be bitter and needing to just stop discussing this show and the creators anymore..

So true. I was listening to NPR the other day and someone talked about how Disney is now doing live action Dumbo, which was dark enough as a cartoon and being worried because Maleficent came off like a rape metaphor, suggesting they don’t really know how to adapt fairy tales to live action without it just being creepy.

And it sounded to me like Paul Lee was saying that people don’t watch because they are misinformed that OUAT is a family show… in a Sunday night family time slot… that promotes itself as a family show… Huh? I’m very confused by his mixed signals.

ABC Boss Talks About S.H.I.E.L.D.'s Slow Start, Once's Take on Frozen, Jilted Trophy Wife and More

OUAT “a greatly underrated show,” due to its reputation as “a big family show.”? Try because the writing is crap. There’s nothing family at all about it! One character’s grandfather married the daughter of the woman he was engaged to and then ruined her life so she had to leave her quasi-rape baby in the woods who came back years later to murder her half-sister’s adoptive son’s father whose own step father is trying to bed the kid’s birth mom after spending centuries murdering and whoring around following the murder of the woman he cuckolded by her jilted husband who was abandoned by his psycho dad which traumatized him into abandoning his own kid who then abandoned his own kid. And the kid’s other grandmother had a one-night-stand with the guy her husband was totally okay with delivering their baby, the baby that his wife openly declared in front of her first born and abandoned daughter that she wanted to have as a replacement — her daughter who grew up alone after her parents trusted a man with a puppet fetish who was raised by the guy who accidentally murdered his parents by turning the into puppets while trying to kill his own — but they forgave him and her step-mother who murdered hundreds of people including a man whose kid she was staking after trying to kill her step-daughter and step granddaughter like she did her husband and her own father whom she named her adoptive son after, the son she got by ruining hundreds of lives including the kid’s birth mother, but she doesn’t regret that, yet she’s reformed enough to do the walk of shame with a single dad and babysit his kid whose mom she had executed. And Peter Pan is a deadbeat, child-abducting and torturing dad. This is family viewing? Then so is Game of Thrones!

Well, 24 is over… for now? It had such a great run. The ending was quite sad, but left pleanty of loose ends for another mini-series edition. Fans were so woried that it would be stale and past its prime, but I for one loved every hour of it. I wish more network dramas would switch to shorter seasons like cable and eliminate the stale plotlines. I have my fingers crossed that Jack will be back! Dammit!

True Blood's Latest Victim Speaks: Why the Shocking Death 'Had to Happen'

Alcide got Neal’d. Another pointless death in the woods and a magic blonde hottie who did shit about it.

That was really nice, getting to work with Anna [Paquin] and Stephen [Moyer] and the rest of the gang. I had been feeling a bit like I was on my own and not very important to the storyline.”

Wonder if MRJ felt like Joe?

Once Upon a Time Casts Fringe Alum as Frozen's Ice Queen Elsa

Fringe, a show where time travel actually worked right. Etta died and Walter fixed everything so her parents would never lose her and they lived happily ever after. Anyone remember that? Adam? Eddy?

(Well, aside from September. RIP, September. I still miss you, you reformed Observer, you.)

The thing we love about Elsa is she is perceived to be a villain but is clearly misunderstood, and that goes to the heart of our show.

Eddy Kitsis, TVLine

If this is the heart of the show, then none of the “villains” are really villains and it’s no big deal that they murdered innocent people on the path to their happy endings? This is the thing I HATE about this show. Instead of meeting injustice with justice, it’s mercy and grace for everyone. Is it wrong of me to wish some misbehaving dragons would show up and burn Storybrooke to the ground, misunderstood bad guys and all? I’m sure Eddy and Adam would then turn the dragon into someone’s cute pet, because the poor thing just had heartburn.

Casting Blame: The Michael Raymond-James/Baelfire/Neal Cassidy Edition

hesaiditsallinmyhead:

“Quiet Minds” aired on March 30th, we saw in OUAT, the character, Baelfire aka Neal Cassidy, take his alleged* last breath as he saved the people he loved one more time. (*I say alleged because I personally think he won’t remain dead forever, he will return.) Though the fandom was early informed…

Neal Cassidy and statutory rape

rumbellehogwarts:

Okay, so the Pilot episode of Once Upon A Time takes place on October 23, 2011. Therefore it is safe to assume that this is Emma’s birthday, considering she was celebrating and whatnot. She turned 28. We know that for a fact, because Rumplestiltskin told Snow and Charming that Emma would return on her 28th birthday – which she did, once Henry found her.

This means she was born in 1983.

By the time 2x06 “Tallahassee” aired, the timeline in the show would have reached 2012. We know this because 1x12 “Skin Deep” was the Valentine’s Day episode aired two days before Valentine’s Day in 2012.

Fast-forward to “Tallahassee” and it is still 2012. In this episode, very plainly for us to see, Emma is in Portland, Oregon, 11 years ago.

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This puts them in 2001. In 2001, Emma turned 18, which means she was 17 when she met Neal Cassidy while trying to steal the car. (We do not know Neal’s age, because everything about him in our world is false.)

When we see Emma and Neal at the gas station, robbing the place, they are still in Oregon, as they are headed to Eugene and must go south towards Salem (we hear Neal discussing this with the gas station employee while Emma is rummaging about for food to steal).

The general definition of statutory rape is engaging in sexual intercourse with a person under the age of 18. HOWEVER, state laws differ.

In Oregon, statutory rape laws are defined as first, second, or third degree rape. Rape in the third degree: engaging in sexual intercourse with a person under 16 years of age. Rape in the second degree: engaging in sexual intercourse with a child under 14 years of age. And rape in the first degree: engaging in sexual intercourse with a child under 12 years of age.

Emma was 17. In Oregon, where they were, Neal would not be charged with committing statutory rape.

On Neal’s wanted poster, we saw that his “birthday” was March 21, 1977. This legally puts him being 23 when he and Emma met. How do we know this? Emma gave birth to Henry when she was 17. Mathematically, she had to get pregnant anywhere from January to late February (at the very latest). Neal had not turned 24 by then. The law in Florida defines statutory rape as anyone 24 or older engaging in sexual activity with someone 16 or 17 years of age.

Neal could not be charged with statutory rape in either of the states we saw him and Emma.

Any other state law does not matter because we have not seen Emma and Neal in any other state in canon. If you try to give me statutory rape laws of other states, your argument is invalid, because we have not seen Neal and Emma in any other state.

Neal by law did NOT commit statutory rape. 

Fans Mourn The Loss Of ‘Once Upon A Time’ Favorite Character, Neal Cassidy

pleasantm:

swanfireheart:

I had a chance to do an opinion piece, so I chose a topic very near and dear to my heart.

If anyone is wondering why people are so upset about Neal’s death, read this. It sums things up pretty well.

eevylynn:

adelinawp:

calliopesmuse:

n3v3r-mnd:

dienachtmahr1995:

theworstcurse:

vcass:

Must have been a former fan of the show…

did delta reply with “that’s your interpretation”?

"@AdamHorowitzLA Just keep watching! #NoSpoilers"
-Delta Airlines

no it was “thanks for flying with us”

Adam: Why you be hatin’, Delta? Delta: No H8. We love all our customers.

I’m sure it was unintentional.

Surely what you was told was a misquote, Adam. It’s just your interpretation of what happened.

eevylynn:

adelinawp:

calliopesmuse:

n3v3r-mnd:

dienachtmahr1995:

theworstcurse:

vcass:

Must have been a former fan of the show…

did delta reply with “that’s your interpretation”?

"@AdamHorowitzLA Just keep watching! #NoSpoilers"

-Delta Airlines

no it was “thanks for flying with us”

Adam: Why you be hatin’, Delta? Delta: No H8. We love all our customers.

I’m sure it was unintentional.

Surely what you was told was a misquote, Adam. It’s just your interpretation of what happened.

sassyzinger:

This just hit me like a ton of bricks.

Remember how Neal didn’t go looking for Emma even after the curse broke because, “I was afraid that she’d never forgive me so I wound up taking the easy way out,”? (Pretty much the only ‘cowardly’ canon thing  Neal has ever done- because thinking he left to avoid facing his father is completely and utterly illogical.)

Neal knew he hurt Emma terribly. He’s apologized several times and told her she has ever right to feel angry and hurt. We all know this.

But think about the fact that at this point Neal still believed Emma had been given both the car and the some twenty thousand dollars by August.

He was operating under the impression that Emma knew he had given her the keychain, the car, and most, if not all, the money for fencing the watches.

Basically, pretty much everything Neal had in the world. 

And he still felt- in spite of giving up everything he had for Emma to get a fresh, easier start in her new life without him- like she would never forgive him for leaving her the way he did.

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Does anyone else find tumblr’s recommendation posts REALLY annoying? Is there a way to shut them off?

Neal/Swanfire unanswered questions

nothereforyourbs:

1.Why didn’t Neal acknowledge Emma kept their car after she got out of jail?

2.How did Emma even know where the car was once she got out?

3.Did Neal leave it in the parking lot near the prison?

4.What was the point in Charley’s girl during their seperate scenes in NYC?

5. Was that their song?

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